You have been gone two & a half years. You never leave my thoughts Ken. I miss the boys so much too, We went over in November think we gave Shanny a bit of a shock. I had been promised l would get to see them, for over the last 12 months. We thought the only way we would see them was to go over. We called again just before Christmas took them all a present, even Shanny, we got a nice hug from Chris & Josh when we were leaving. Asked them if they would come & see us they said yes.

Yet they still never ring txt or send a message. We really thought we were getting somewhere with them.

We went over a good few times in total in 2015 to let them see we care,
You asked Shanny at the hospice to let us see boys, I think you should have also talked with Chris & Josh so they knew how you felt & what your wishes were.
Don't think they have been reminded or reminded about grandparents only Shannys mum & dad. They know nearly every member of Shanny's family, yet not many on our side.

Really thought shanny would have wanted them to keep in touch with us and family, we are the nearest thing to you. They only ever met them when you or we took them to meet them. l don't think l will ever mean as much to Chris & Josh as my mum meant to you. They only care about Shannys family. Shanny only keeps in touch with our Paula.

Shanny said she would come over the other week, but have not had any messages or any thing so far. I sent Chris & Shanny a text, I didn't get an answer from them. This time i'm going to wait & not get in touch. I don't think l can keep doing this anymore, thinking I've finally got some were, just to find out a few weeks later l didn't get through to any of them at all, they just don't care whether they see us or not.  I'm afraid your mum & dad (us) don't count as family in any of their lives. 

I don't think Shanny as ever really wanted us in hers or their lives, I can't think of been asked even once to visit your house not even when you were alive, I know you wanted us to come. I wanted Shanny to come to ours which she did but not often. I tried perhaps not hard enough.......it was very hard work. It was very hard to be nice to someone that constantly nearly each time we had arranged to meet up or come for a meal, or bring boys only to find they didn't come, or didn't turn up. 

What happens in the future I don't know, it would be wonderful to have caring grandchildren in our lives, sadly only Shannys family have that privilege. We wont stop trying with the boys, maybe one day they will remember us, they may think they missed out on two loving grandparents and wonder why they didn't see us much.  There will be family on our side that will tell them how hard we have wanted to be part of there lives.  

We and our family definitely saw more of the boys when you were here Ken, wonder if they will remember that.